Lawyers, coders & philosophers at the same table, in conversation w/ Tech‑Lawyer Elena Gurevich

Ever wondered what happens when a multilingual, art‑loving attorney jumps head‑first into the most turbulent tech wave of our time? In this episode of Mutual Connections, host Shayan Mashatian sits down with Elena Gurevich—lawyer, podcaster (AI in Real Life: Not Your Usual Take), and champion for small‑to‑mid‑sized businesses navigating AI risk. From “shadow AI” in the workplace to the copyright wars playing out in U.S. courts, Elena spares no details—mixing real‑world anecdotes, legal insight, and a healthy dose of pragmatism.

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Lawyers, coders & philosophers at the same table

In conversation w/ Tech‑Lawyer Elena Gurevich

Episode Highlights:

• Why SMEs need AI guidance more than Fortune 500s
  Elena explains the resource gap—and how she bridges it—for founders who can’t afford an in‑house legal team.

• The two extremes of AI adoption
  Total bans vs. blind enthusiasm: why both postures can backfire, and how to find the “golden middle.”

• Shadow AI on the rise
  What happens when employees quietly use ChatGPT behind corporate firewalls—and how leaders can respond.

• 40+ U.S. copyright lawsuits and counting
  A snapshot of the legal battlefield (OpenAI, Meta, Anthropic) and why “fair use” is the phrase of 2025.

• Deterministic vs. non‑deterministic LLMs
  A plain‑English breakdown of why model predictability matters for IP risk.

• The milk‑in‑coffee problem
  Why deleting personal data from an LLM is harder than it sounds—and what “right to be forgotten” looks like in practice.

• Podcasting as research lab
  Elena’s origin story: launching a show to “get the ideas out” and ending up with 30‑plus episodes of cross‑disciplinary gold.

• Lawyers, coders & philosophers at the same table
  How AI is dissolving professional silos and creating unexpected collaborations.

• Practical roadmap for first‑time AI adopters
  Elena’s step‑by‑step advice: inventory your workflows, pilot on a narrow use‑case, and involve counsel early.

• Upskilling without the hype
  Why a two‑week “AI governance” bootcamp won’t make you an expert—and what serious professional prep actually takes.

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Hit play and join us for an unfiltered, insight‑packed hour that will leave you smarter about AI risk, regulation, and real‑world adoption. Whether you’re a founder, developer, or curious listener, this episode delivers the clarity you need—plus a few myth‑busting surprises.

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